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Old 06-08-2008, 12:45 AM   #1
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Not sure this belongs here, it's drahma.

Basically, I was in a store and a copybot showed up. She copied me, Phoenix, another random shopper, Vendetta, Rev, Affinity, Beebs, Vivi Odets, and others. The upsetting thing is she bragged she was going to resell the shapes/skins/clothes she bought, and that she could copy prims too, so possibly she got all our attachments as well, though we couldn't see them. She claimed to be the store owner. The really weird thing was that she was able to copybot our profiles and join our groups at the same time.

I thought I took more pictures, but I think it's cause I AR'd her more than once.




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[21:57] Hair Dye Menu - Demo (wear me): Click on a shade to dye your style. Note: Demo hairs allow you to try on unlimited shades. When you buy a style you will only be able to select one color. That color will be permanent.
[21:57] Jenna - Demo: Wear the Hair Dye Menu, from the -DC- Jenna - Demo folder, to color me.
[21:58] Hair Dye Menu - Demo (wear me): Please wait while your hair changes color.
[21:58] Jenna - Demo: Your hair has been successfully dyed! Since this is a demo, you may continue trying shades.

[22:02] Phoenix Psaltery: Guess what, Yuki?

[22:05] Autopilot canceled
[22:05] YukiBear Inglewood: I am the owner of this place.
[22:05] You: no you're not
[22:05] YukiBear Inglewood: yes I am.
[22:05] You: why are you copybotting then?
[22:05] You: AR'd, that's against TOS
[22:05] Phoenix Psaltery: Regardless if you were, use of copybot is a TOS violation
[22:05] YukiBear Inglewood: well thats how I make my things.
[22:05] You: bullshit
[22:06] YukiBear Inglewood: hm?
[22:06] You: and i'm contacting the owner to report you also
[22:06] Cristiano Midnight is Online
[22:06] YukiBear Inglewood: haha Ill just respond back saying I told you so It was me.
[22:06] You: okay fine
[22:06] Phoenix Psaltery: You have no idea what you're messing with.

[22:07] YukiBear Inglewood: thanks San for shopping at my store
[22:07] You: no worries, if it's true you'll be out of business quite soon

[22:07] YukiBear Inglewood: sorry but I dont entirely take things.
[22:08] YukiBear Inglewood: I only get the basics and addon or change it
[22:08] You: why don't you make your own things?
[22:08] Phoenix Psaltery: Linden Lab takes TOS violations VERY serously.
[22:08] YukiBear Inglewood: I used to but it got pretty difficult
[22:08] You: i don't believe you're really Asuki
[22:08] YukiBear Inglewood: I couldnt manage it everyday
[22:08] YukiBear Inglewood: I am Asuka....
[22:09] You: prove it
[22:09] YukiBear Inglewood: my names Angela if you dont believe me
[22:09] YukiBear Inglewood: and I came from teen grid.
[22:09] Phoenix Psaltery: Prove it by relogging to that account.
[22:09] YukiBear Inglewood: ok.
[22:09] Phoenix Psaltery: We have no way to know what your rl name is, foolish woman

[22:12] yenyen Later: hi
[22:12] Phoenix Psaltery: Hi, yenyen

[22:13] yenyen Later: um sorry do you know who owns this place? Im kinda wondering if she'd help me out with a free hair demo XD
[22:13] YukiBear Inglewood: yeah Im the owner and no go buy it.
[22:13] yenyen Later: >.<...
[22:13] yenyen Later: er ok..
[22:13] Mika Nieuport accepted your inventory offer.
[22:13] Phoenix Psaltery: This YukiBear claims to, but I don't think she is
[22:13] yenyen Later: huh?
[22:13] YukiBear Inglewood: I do own it
[22:14] yenyen Later: your pretty rude YukiBear
[22:14] Phoenix Psaltery: Yuki, I thought you were going to relog as your main? Can't do that because you're not really her?
[22:14] yenyen Later: at least treat customers with respect
[22:14] Phoenix Psaltery: And stop bumping my wife
[22:14] YukiBear Inglewood: Ill do whatever I want
[22:15] YukiBear Inglewood: oh wait..
[22:15] YukiBear Inglewood: I am your wife.
[22:15] Phoenix Psaltery: lol
[22:15] Phoenix Psaltery: you're such a twit
[22:15] yenyen Later: omg how does she do that?
[22:15] Phoenix Psaltery: it's an illegal script
[22:15] yenyen Later: wth??
[22:15] yenyen Later: oh.. o.o
[22:16] Rev Eponym is Online
[22:16] YukiBear Inglewood: hey phoenix
[22:16] YukiBear Inglewood: check my profile its proof im your wife
[22:16] Tya Fallingbridge is Offline
[22:16] Phoenix Psaltery: That's just creepy
[22:17] Phoenix Psaltery: you've been ARed for that as well
[22:17] BaHaCa Hennah is Online
[22:17] YukiBear Inglewood: lol dont call your wife creepy
[22:17] YukiBear Inglewood: shes pretty ugly
[22:17] You: she put on a shape you can't sell, taht's why
[22:17] Ilianexsi Sojourner is Offline
[22:17] Phoenix Psaltery: I'd really love to orbit you, but I'm too smart for that
[22:19] Serenity Mercier is Offline
[22:19] Lyndon Heart is Offline
[22:19] Lyndon Heart is Online
[22:20] YukiBear Inglewood: love my profile pheonix?
[22:21] Vendetta Lowell: OMG
[22:21] Vendetta Lowell: Yuki
[22:21] Vendetta Lowell: c'mere
[22:22] Cristiano Midnight is Offline
[22:22] Rev Eponym: looks like a bot
[22:22] You: a bot who replies in generally sensible answers tho
[22:24] Wildefire Walcott is Online
[22:24] vivi Odets: creepy!
[22:24] CosmoPecan Kawabata is Offline
[22:24] You: the boggart appears to be confused
[22:24] Phoenix Psaltery: lol
[22:24] You: RIDIKKULUS!
[22:24] Rev Eponym: that's a good description
[22:24] Vendetta Lowell: GET OFF ME
[22:24] vivi Odets: we need a bell jar to trap her inside of!
[22:24] Phoenix Psaltery: EXPECTO PATRONUM!!!!
[22:25] You: i wish the real owner would log in
[22:25] Vendetta Lowell: ....
[22:25] vivi Odets: lol
[22:25] YukiBear Inglewood: wont last forever
[22:26] vivi Odets: is it exploding?
[22:26] Vendetta Lowell: I got her
[22:26] Rev Eponym: I'm wearing Canimal, how about that?
[22:26] vivi Odets: going into the light?
[22:26] Affinity Moody: so whats the dealio
[22:26] Rev Eponym: now she's Fini
[22:26] You: copybot
[22:26] YukiBear Inglewood: Im afraid Vendetta my profile is better than yours.
[22:26] Rev Eponym: look at Yuki, Fini
[22:27] Vendetta Lowell: Sure thing Yuki
[22:27] Rev Eponym: skin and clothes are yours
[22:27] vivi Odets: Yukibear is a wanna be
[22:27] vivi Odets: too bad, so sad
[22:27] Affinity Moody: why are you blue?
[22:27] You: wish Tenshi was online, lol
[22:27] Vendetta Lowell: I froze her
[22:27] Joshua Nightshade: So Yuki, what's going on?
[22:27] Affinity Moody: that is creepy
[22:28] YukiBear Inglewood: aff
[22:28] YukiBear Inglewood: watch this
[22:28] Affinity Moody: looking
[22:29] Affinity Moody: So you cant get my hair I guess
[22:29] YukiBear Inglewood: I can
[22:29] vivi Odets: you are so sad, Yuki
[22:29] YukiBear Inglewood: but hey like my profile?
[22:29] Rev Eponym: looks like just shapes skins and clothes
[22:29] YukiBear Inglewood: and my groups?
[22:30] Rev Eponym: oh and profiles
[22:30] YukiBear Inglewood: I can copy objects too
[22:30] Affinity Moody: wow its my profile
[22:30] vivi Odets: so unoriginal
[22:30] Affinity Moody: that is wicked
[22:30] RacerX Gullwing is Offline
[22:30] Affinity Moody: Ive been cloned yikes!
[22:30] Joshua Nightshade: Yuki dear, I suggest you stop, you're already three miles down shit creek.
[22:31] YukiBear Inglewood: lmao Idc
[22:31] Phoenix Psaltery: 3-1/2
[22:31] YukiBear Inglewood: Im quitting SL anyway
[22:31] Rev Eponym: well that's okay, you will care soon
[22:31] Phoenix Psaltery: No great loss
[22:31] Garret Bakalava is Online
[22:31] Joshua Nightshade: That's pretty irrelevant to the issue at hand.
[22:31] vivi Odets: pitiful, pitiful
[22:31] YukiBear Inglewood: mhmm so either way it wouldent matter :P
[22:31] Rev Eponym: nice look, Wilde!
[22:31] Lance Kent is Offline
[22:32] Wildefire Walcott: howdy pardners
[22:32] vivi Odets: If you're quitting, then what is your point?
[22:32] Joshua Nightshade: Well if it won't matter anyway...
[22:32] Zorena Deckard is Offline
[22:32] Phoenix Psaltery: Hi Wilde
[22:32] Haroldthe Burrel: Hi whore
[22:32] You: hi Harold, hi Wilde
[22:32] Joshua Nightshade: Everyone wave to Yuki.
[22:32] Joshua Nightshade waves to Yuki.
[22:32] Wildefire Walcott: ? who's a whore?
[22:32] YukiBear Inglewood: hey Josh
[22:32] YukiBear Inglewood: lol
[22:32] Haroldthe Burrel: YukiBear Inglewood is a whore
[22:33] YukiBear Inglewood: nevah :P
[22:33] vivi Odets waves to Yuki
[22:33] YukiBear Inglewood: its cause Im dressed like one
[22:33] YukiBear Inglewood: xD!
[22:33] Haroldthe Burrel: I bet she takes all comers too
[22:33] vivi Odets: That would mean Yuki is worth something... alas, she is not
[22:33] Glyph Graves: kinda facinating really
[22:33] Affinity Moody: why would you want to copy a profile tho? What is the use?
[22:33] You: has she gone?
[22:34] Vendetta Lowell: is it gone?
[22:34] Joshua Nightshade: I killed it.
[22:34] Vendetta Lowell: \o/
[22:34] Joshua Nightshade bows.
[22:34] yenyen Later: omg
[22:34] Phoenix Psaltery: heh
[22:34] yenyen Later: a plant
[22:34] vivi Odets: if one copies an identity, copies a group... can one access rights?
[22:34] Phoenix Psaltery: you wish
[22:34] Phoenix Psaltery: I doubt it
[22:34] yenyen Later: was that even up there before?
[22:34] Affinity Moody: oh yeah that would suck
[22:34] yenyen Later: nvm its hers
[22:34] Achariya Maktoum is Online
[22:34] vivi Odets: That would be the scary thing
[22:34] Phoenix Psaltery: surely not, that'd be a HUGE issue
[22:34] You: i think it goes by name key
[22:34] vivi Odets: *nods*
[22:35] You: did everyone get an AR in?
[22:35] Vendetta Lowell: i did
[22:35] Joshua Nightshade: Yeah.
[22:35] Jynne Salome is Offline
[22:35] Rev Eponym: I did too
[22:35] Joshua Nightshade: and then I killed her.
[22:35] You: i did two
[22:35] Vendetta Lowell: when she turned into me
[22:35] Phoenix Psaltery: well, at least we all had an excuse to get together in-world.
[22:35] Wildefire Walcott: um
[22:35] Rev Eponym smiles
[22:35] Vendetta Lowell: i got the picture and everything
[22:35] You: i got a bunch of pics
[22:35] Wildefire Walcott: if it can take your groups does that mean it can steal your group owned land?
[22:35] Haroldthe Burrel: Did you get my best Ruth side?
[22:35] Rev Eponym: I doubt it
[22:35] vivi Odets: P2, uh, you look like something one would kill in WOW... but I shall keep my dagger hidden...
[22:35] Joshua Nightshade: probably not.
[22:35] You: no, that goes by name/key
[22:35] You: lol
[22:35] Phoenix Psaltery: what'd you do, josh, choke her to death with your... *cough*
[22:35] Vendetta Lowell: lmao
[22:35] Wildefire Walcott: because finis groups were in its profile
[22:36] Joshua Nightshade: Omicron.
[22:36] vivi Odets: *giggles*
[22:36] Rev Eponym: Josh's cough is lethal
[22:36] Joshua Nightshade: Weird though that it can join groups like that.
[22:36] Phoenix Psaltery licks vivi's ankle
[22:36] You: I'm sorry, Beebs, I just grabbed teh first shape in my bodyparts folder
[22:36] Glyph Graves: Id be interested to see if could do restricted groups
[22:36] Affinity Moody: yeah wonder if it can mess with my groups and stuffs
[22:36] Haroldthe Burrel: Hi Rev, Fin
[22:36] Glyph Graves: or just the ones anyone can join
[22:36] Vendetta Lowell: yeah brb, i need to eject it out of my grou[
[22:36] kaia Ennui is Offline
[22:36] You: it's in your group?
[22:36] Tya Fallingbridge is Online
[22:36] Vendetta Lowell: yeah
[22:36] Vendetta Lowell: iono how
[22:37] Vendetta Lowell: it joined it
[22:37] Vendetta Lowell: without me letting it
[22:37] Phoenix Psaltery: bizarre
[22:37] Affinity Moody: hmmmmm
[22:37] Wildefire Walcott: goddam that's scary
[22:37] Affinity Moody: that isnt cool
[22:37] Phoenix Psaltery: we need to pursue this
[22:37] Wildefire Walcott: vendetta what access diod it have?
[22:37] Vendetta Lowell: none
[22:37] Rev Eponym: the av has Fini's profile now, but not her groups
[22:37] Joshua Nightshade: Strange.
Thanks SCers who showed up to help with the ARing. She was banned quickly. Good to see all of you in one place again
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Old 06-08-2008, 12:47 AM   #2
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We had permission to post the group chat too so here it is:

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[22:19] Phoenix Psaltery: Someone is using something like copybot to copy not just our avatars but even Sans' profile. I'd love for all of you to come and mass AR her at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Dernier%20Cri/120/114/28
[22:20] Vendetta Lowell: do i get a cupcake?
[22:20] Joshua Nightshade: what's the person's name?
[22:20] Phoenix Psaltery: YukiBear Inglewood
[22:20] Sansarya Caligari: please, now she's copybotted the shape I switched into, it was one of Beebo's Brazen Women shapes
[22:20] Beebo Brink looks grim
[22:21] Vendetta Lowell: where is she
[22:21] Vendetta Lowell: i can't see anything yet
[22:21] Joshua Nightshade: wow she's got phoenix's profile. heh.
[22:21] Sansarya Caligari: yukibear inglewood
[22:21] Phoenix Psaltery: Looks like me right now (shudder)
[22:21] Joshua Nightshade: what did you do to this person?
[22:21] Vendetta Lowell: oh hell no
[22:21] Vendetta Lowell: she just stole me
[22:21] Sansarya Caligari: nothing, i was just shopping in a store
[22:21] Phoenix Psaltery: she claims she owns this place
[22:21] Sansarya Caligari: she claims to be the store owner, but i think she's trying to ruin the store owner's business
[22:22] Phoenix Psaltery: we came shopping and she started morphing into us
[22:22] Sansarya Caligari: weird how she gets your profile too...phoe had 2 wives for a second
[22:22] Rev Eponym: anyone know any Lindens? they should see this
[22:22] Phoenix Psaltery: it's not all it's cracked up to be, contrary to what the Mormons say
[22:23] Phoenix Psaltery: I do but none that are online
[22:23] Sansarya Caligari: i've been looking for one who is online, but no luck so far
[22:23] Beebo Brink: Got to be an alt : 6/7/2008 birthdate
[22:23] Sansarya Caligari: yeah
[22:23] Phoenix Psaltery: yeah
[22:23] Rev Eponym: this thing is copying everyone here
[22:23] Phoenix Psaltery: I challenged her to relog on the store owners account
[22:23] Phoenix Psaltery: she said ok, disappered for a bit then came back on the same acct
[22:23] Sansarya Caligari: i put on freebie shape and skin
[22:23] Vendetta Lowell: brb
[22:24] Vendetta Lowell: i'm getting a linden
[22:24] Phoenix Psaltery: cool
[22:25] Sansarya Caligari: Ven, who made your boots?
[22:26] Vendetta Lowell: Draconic Lioncourt
[22:26] Sansarya Caligari: if we IM the creators of what we're wearing, maybe they can join the AR party
[22:26] Joshua Nightshade: phoenix send me a TP?
[22:26] Beebo Brink: S/he's morphed again
[22:26] Phoenix Psaltery: sure
[22:27] Beebo Brink: Has gone from P2 to someone else in just a flash
[22:27] Rev Eponym: Yuki was me for a moment, I got a pic
[22:27] Beebo Brink: Do you have to be radius?
[22:27] Rev Eponym: apparently
[22:27] Sansarya Caligari: she's only doing women, notice that?
[22:27] Phoenix Psaltery: huh?
[22:28] Rev Eponym: no, she did me too
[22:28] Sansarya Caligari: well, cept for phoe
[22:28] Sansarya Caligari: ok
[22:28] Phoenix Psaltery: she was me earlier, repeatedly...
[22:28] Vendetta Lowell: i can't find any online lindens that actually talk to me
[22:28] Haroldthe Burrel: [22:26] Find-a-Linden HUD: Below are 6 most recent Lindens spotted online: - Steve Linden (6 minutes, 48 seconds ago) - Frontier Linden (6 minutes, 48 seconds ago) - Nicole Linden (6 minutes, 48 seconds ago) - Elle Linden (6 minutes, 48 seconds ago) [22:26] Find-a-Linden HUD: - Teeple Linden (11 minutes, 48 seconds ago) - Belinda Linden (41 minutes, 48 seconds ago)
[22:28] Sansarya Caligari: is anyone in a group with a lot of Lindens?
[22:29] Joshua Nightshade: try frontier.
[22:29] Joshua Nightshade: or teeple.
[22:29] Wildefire Walcott: what y'all talkin about?
[22:29] Sansarya Caligari: copybot
[22:29] Joshua Nightshade: some account is copybotting people's clothes and profiles.
[22:29] Sansarya Caligari: in a store, she's become all of us now
[22:29] Rev Eponym: we're standing with an active copybot user
[22:29] Beebo Brink: It's freaky watching this person morph into friends of mine
[22:29] Wildefire Walcott: no way
[22:29] Phoenix Psaltery: wanna come join the party?
[22:29] Wildefire Walcott: i'
[22:30] Wildefire Walcott: yes, but let me change into an appropriate form first =)
[22:30] Phoenix Psaltery: haha
[22:31] Vendetta Lowell: Frontier more or less just said fuck off
[22:31] Phoenix Psaltery: grr
[22:32] Haroldthe Burrel: Quality control and customer service all in one package
[22:32] Phoenix Psaltery: absolutely
[22:33] Vendetta Lowell: she's taking groups too
[22:33] Vendetta Lowell: T_T
[22:36] Beebo Brink: I've seen it morph at least 3 times now
[22:36] Phoenix Psaltery: like that movie...
[22:38] Beebo Brink: Gone now
[22:38] Joshua Nightshade: It got banned/
[22:38] Beebo Brink: The Profile disappeared from search
[22:38] Joshua Nightshade: Yah.
[22:38] Rev Eponym: yeah JUST now
[22:38] Joshua Nightshade: I killed it in the sim.
[22:38] Haroldthe Burrel: Or from making an alt in five minutes and coming back in
[22:38] Vendetta Lowell: still it was able to get into my group without invite
[22:38] Vendetta Lowell: >_>
[22:38] Vendetta Lowell: i'm not happy
[22:39] Beebo Brink: No fucking kidding
[22:39] Rev Eponym: are you sure it wasn't just a listing, Ven?
[22:39] Vendetta Lowell: she had the title on her group
[22:41] Rev Eponym: yeah, but I'd be interested to know if that extended to land rights, etc
[22:42] Haroldthe Burrel: good point, Rev
[22:42] Haroldthe Burrel: Don't forget to save this chat to a n/c for later use
[22:42] Joshua Nightshade: man hopefully not.
[22:42] Beebo Brink: 0.o
[22:43] Rev Eponym: SL haz security holes?!? Nooooo!
[22:43] Beebo Brink: Land rights transfer would have been very very interesting....
[22:44] Phoenix Psaltery: man
[22:44] vivi Odets: and here I heard it was a stable platform...
[22:44] vivi Odets: and very very scary
[22:44] Sansarya Caligari: lulz
[22:44] Phoenix Psaltery: it's a stable for jackasses
[22:44] Haroldthe Burrel: yep, stability the priority since the letter of a year ago.
[22:44] Sansarya Caligari: well, it did get very laggy in here the more who popped in
[22:45] vivi Odets: lol, maybe we all broke her
[22:45] Beebo Brink: Great basis for an SL Twilight Zone story
[22:45] Phoenix Psaltery: oh, what a good idea
[22:46] Rev Eponym: I do SL because every day is like Twilight Zone
[22:46] Beebo Brink: Ain't it the truth
[22:46] Phoenix Psaltery: doo dee doo doo doo dee doo doo
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Old 06-08-2008, 02:21 AM   #4
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That is the weirdest thing I have ever heard of in SL.
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Old 06-08-2008, 04:56 AM   #5
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This is extremely disturbing. The most disturbing part (which at first i would have thought was stealing my shape) is the joining of groups that were invite only.

What about groups that actually earn money through vendor systems and land and and such? Does this mean some CopyBot can join a group just before payout and get money when the payout occurs?

How can someone join an invite only group? What about groups that have fee's to join and such. So the use of groups to discriminate from regular patrons versus content creator patrons to determine who has access to your full perm content vendors is for the most part circumventable?

This sounds to me as if there is some major whole in the group code.

If group data is constantly streamed between a persons avatar and the server so that the server knows whether or not you are on group land, among other things, (I heard this but not sure if it is true), then that would make group data CopyBot attackable, right? Anything that does not strictly reside on the server and does not get streamed to the client can be copied via CopyBot, right?

Makes me happy I am a recluse, a little.
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Old 06-08-2008, 05:53 AM   #6
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It was really freaky to watch the Profile change. When I first called up this person's Profile, it was an exact copy of P2's information, down to his partner and 1st life notes.

Then a few minutes later, it was an exact copy of someone else entirely, a few minutes later yet another person. The only part of the profile that didn't change was the av's name.

It was a rather chilling demonstration of the portability of digital information.
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Old 06-08-2008, 06:31 AM   #7
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Somebody should test this CopyBot madness unless this info is already known.

I'd like to know if you can join a group as an officer and manipulate land.
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Old 06-08-2008, 07:45 AM   #8
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It sounds suspiciously like she was using some of the test methods that ship with the libsecondlife source and it's alllll over the web. When I was building the SlickBot (fashionbot) and RoroBot(camperbot) I found these functions.

1) Clone <avaratarname>. This function creates an exact visual duplicate of another avie but nothing else--no prims, no inventory, etc.

2) JoinGroup. does what you think it does. Joining private groups I wasn't aware of, though this thing is so poorly written I could see it.

3) CloneProfile <avatarname> also self explanatory.

I read through the chatlog--it looks for all the world like she used the Follow <avatar name> function (another canned test function), that's why all the bumping was going on. The test client is just a console window where you can type commands, you can't see a thing but you can hear chat and issue commands. Generally you also have a full blown client open as well so you can see what the bot is doing. The person running the bot was probably in the room at the same time (yenyen Later is who I would suspect).

There are a couple more functions for saving and loading data from the local drive that is at the root of a 'copybot'. There are also quite a few object backup systems on SLX that do the same thing; I'm not sure why they're allowed to sell them. Why LL doesn't make the very, very simple changes to cure the problem is one of the biggest fuckovers to their customers that no one talks about. There's no hacking or anything devious going on, all of the methods necessary to do this is in the open source that they've handed out to the world contrary to their own content ownership policies. That being said, I think it's completely legit to take copies of your own shit with you over to OpenSim.

Anyway, sounds like just a kid playing with the testclient.

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It was really freaky to watch the Profile change. When I first called up this person's Profile, it was an exact copy of P2's information, down to his partner and 1st life notes.

Then a few minutes later, it was an exact copy of someone else entirely, a few minutes later yet another person. The only part of the profile that didn't change was the av's name.

It was a rather chilling demonstration of the portability of digital information.


I was hanging out with Beebs when that was all happening and I had looked YukiBear Inglewood up in search...saw that morphing. Freaky.
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Somebody should test this CopyBot madness unless this info is already known.

I'd like to know if you can join a group as an officer and manipulate land.
Well Crystalshard answered my question:
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[8:16] Briana Dawson: so can they join groups?
[8:16] Briana Dawson: as officers via copybot?
[8:16] CrystalShard Foo: No.
[8:16] CrystalShard Foo: Ofcourse not.
[8:17] CrystalShard Foo: They just pull the list of groups on your profile and join it. The end.
[8:17] Briana Dawson: but some groups were invite only
[8:17] CrystalShard Foo: It just means that they might be able to join "Secret" groups since they have its key.
[8:17] CrystalShard Foo: No.
[8:17] CrystalShard Foo: These groups have a flag that goes "Dont show Join button".
[8:18] Briana Dawson: oh copybot can bypass that
[8:18] CrystalShard Foo: But the server is stupid enough to still accept a direct 'join group' command sent over the protocol manually
[8:18] CrystalShard Foo: Thats a Linden Lab foobar.
[8:18] CrystalShard Foo: There's lots of things in SecondLife that dont check if you have the right priviliges to do anything
[8:18] CrystalShard Foo: Linden Lab just counted on the client not showing a button
[8:18] CrystalShard Foo: And thats not an option anymore
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